Pakistani Health Management System Problems
I am sure those of you who visit the disreputable forum have seen numerous articles by Indian and Pakistani commentators about the price of medicines in Pakistan. As these commentators attest, the medicines in Pakistan cost about fifteen times as much as they do in India. Ofcourse our brave Pakistani friends might be able to accept a misconception that heroin can cure all illnesses and that Pakistan makes enough heroin to make all its people forget their pain, but we have to confront the real impact of the fact Pakistan has no health management system.So lets briefly talk about what this means.
Firstly if some average Abdul from the Pakistan Army's Jihadi ranks decides that he is going to develop a biological weapon to destroy the Kafirs of India or the infidels of America and the Terrorists of Israel and by some change the average Abdul makes a mistake reading the Chinese instructions on the side of the bilogical weapons package he gets from all-weather friends in China, he could start a pandemic that will be impossible to control in Pakistan. Containing such a pandemic will require the import of medicines into Pakistan, and the nature of the pharma market dictates that those medicines will have to come from India.
Secondly, when there is poor health management system in place, there is a lack of control on communicable diseases. People will say that in India we don't have good control over communicable diseases but I point out that we have been trying successfully to keep things control, unlike others in our part of the world! However even if India achieves some measure of control over the problems of Typhoid, Malaria and T.B., the flow of population across the borders will ensure that local outbreaks keep occuring and the Indian disease control system never achieves a complete success. I leave the possibilities of conducting terrorist spectaculars with local outbreaks to your imagination, but you should all agree by now that Pakistan's lack of health control could easily impair India's efforts at pandemic managment.
Thirldy, the Pakistan Army, now effectively legitimized by America to rule Pakistan forever, has no incentive to change this. The reasons why medicines cost ten time more in Pakistan than in India is because the Pakistan Army ensures that import of medicines from India is taxed to the point where smuggling is incentivized. The Army then places an unofficial cess on the smugglers and uses that money for its private slush funds. As the Army is not accountable to the people of Pakistan and the Americans won't let the Pakistani people hold the Pakistani Army accountable, even if there is a pandemic tomorrow in Pakistan, the Pakistani Army will have no incentive to change the way it does things. As they did with the earthquake in POK, the Pakistani Army will simply hand over health services to the Lashkar-e-Taiba and then take bribes and unofficially siphon off international funds and donations meant for health aid.
It is easy to see that the deadly flu that scientists worry will tear through the world, could easily start in Pakistan as a failed Jihadi biological weapons development exercise and spread rapidly to other parts of the world.
This terrible mess is yet another example of how Pakistan's military leadership only intends to maintain a festering sore of a nation that only succeeds in bringing India and quite possibly the world down with it.
All too often the world trivializes the threat from Pakistan as being solely due to nuclear weapons and this allows people to pretend that somehow having Musharraf in power is going to save the world!
It is important to educate the World about the true dangers posed by Pakistan.
posted by maverick @ 7:31 AM
9 Comments:
which disreputable forum is that ?
Hi Akash,
The BR forum is a place where disreputable people hang out.
hi maverick,
the following info has been posted on a different forum.Sorry for having posted in this thread.It should have been posted in the thread "Heroin...".Anyway your comments will be greatly appreciated.
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Though the peace offensive (confidence building measures) through the Composite Dialogue process continues, RAW continues to actively engage in its power play to rock the boat and encircle the enemy. Method of two-prong attack—“Peace through dialogue and war through RAW”— is running superbly.
Tactics of the dragon policy.
Pakistani Intelligence agencies are employing Hindus and even Muslims as militants who cross into India.
In retaliation to the unending terrorist pursuits of Pakistan; RAW and MOSSAD had conceived the summer offensive a year ago. Modus operandi has been successful – brief on operational tactics follows:
Intelligence has successfully taped known international drug and mafia dons against Pakistan. CIT ‘X’ and some international crooks with people of Indian origin pay Pakistan in the same coin. CIT ‘X’ is effectively training agents for covert operations in Pakistan. Under the Vajpayee government, the CIT ‘X’ and other sensitive organizations were authorized to strengthen contacts with ‘sleeping agents’, and recruit new front men to carry out covert operations in Pakistan.
We have also engaged all possible international criminals and mercenaries, including Afgans for covert purposes during LK Advani’s tenure in the Home Ministry. Just before the Indian parliamentary elections, officials have met the international criminal council “somewhere” in South East Asia and assured Indian Government’s continued support. CIT ‘X’ is actively involved in drug trafficking to finance its covert operations.
Illegal poppy is being cultivated in bulk in Himachal Pradesh, Arunachal Pradesh, Manipur, Mizoram and Uttar Pradesh. Dharamshala as a result has become one of the most infamous centers of drugs in Himachal Pradesh. Drug barons have close links with their Afghan counterparts and completely controlled and continuously monitored by various intelligence agencies. According to current statistics, 25 per cent of Indian poppy is being diverted into illegal markets worldwide. The booming poppy crop in Himachal Pradesh and Northeast region has led to deployment of local refining laboratories to make heroin. India today stands as the fifth largest country in the world in the production of illicit opium. Laos is 4th with 20 metric tons and has direct tie up with RAW and internal drug barons. Some people of Indian origin living in Surinam and Holland have been engaged to facilitate Indian agencies in drug trafficking. Under the benign patronage of CIT ‘X’, the ‘business’ of drug trafficking is flourishing, and the money earned is accounted for and is being directed towards covert activities in Pakistan.
The summer offensive includes establishment of 57 training camps in Occupied Kashmir, East Punjab, Uttar Pradesh, Rajasthan, Gujarat, Madhya Pradesh, Maharashtra, Karnataka and Assam to train and launch terrorists inside Pakistan. Trainees are generally drawn from the Indian hatched dissident groups of Mohajir Qaumi Movement (MQM), Jiye Sindh Mohaz (JSM), Jiye Sindh Students Federation (JSF) and Balochi nationalists and other nationalist groups from various parts of Sindh, Balochistan and Tribal Areas.
Offensive under Diplomatic Cover.The MOSSAD hand
Most of the Indian Embassies/Consulates around the world are being used as dens for hatching RAW plots. The set-ups are grouped together on regional basis under one head, known as the RAW center. This includes the espionage efforts as well as the subversion, sabotage and terrorism oriented operations. For Pakistan RAW centers at London, Dubai, Iran, and South Africa operate against Pakistan jointly with Israeli MOSSAD. However, for its summer offensive, RAW, in a joint effort with MOSSAD has laid out a whole network around Pakistan, to ensnare it in a trap and tighten the noose around it through destabilization.
India has opened Consulates (IOC’s) in Kandahar, Jalalabad, Mazar-e-Sharif and Herat, besides having an oversized diplomatic mission in Kabul.
Kandahar and Jalalabad are near the borders of Pakistan, which insinuates many things. The ongoing Wana operation is being fed cash, weapons and ammunition indirectly by RAW operatives under cover of Al-Qaeda. MOSSAD and AMMAN have also contributed heavily towards the funding and material requirements for these operations. The direct result of this was the effective slaying of 121 Pakistani regular infantry soldiers on Nov 8th’2004, just 3 days after the infusion of war material and assistance in logistics and planning operations of the tribals by operatives of RAW.
Ministry of Information and Security (MOIS). The IRANI involvement:
Iran, having contiguous borders with Pakistan, is a hotbed of intrigues and constant source of support and inspiration to RAW functionaries. The Indian Embassy at Tehran and Consulates in Zahidan, Mashhad and Bandar Abbas are actively engaged in establishing links with disgruntled elements of Balochistan and Sindh for destabilizing these provinces. Iran also serves as a base for fomenting sectarian trouble in Pakistan. Irani intelligence has been providing reliable information and support to RAW operations by using disgruntled Shia elements in Pakistan.
This intelligence model is a improvement on the practices of MOSSAD, which has infiltrated several Jewish agents into the occupied territory of Palestine as Muslims. These agents practice Islam like any ordinary Muslim. They say prayers in mosques, observe fast during Ramadan, and mingle into local Muslim population just to wait for the appropriate time to strike. During the armed struggle in former East Pakistan, Indian army regulars, after they were physically made to look like Muslims and taught Bangla, were pushed into East Pakistan to fight as Mukti Bahini against the Pakistan Army.”
The summer offensive of RAW includes working on ethnic, regional, parochial and secular themes, which include Sindhu Desh Movement in Sindh, Saraiki Movement in Punjab, Tribal Balochis in the name of Greater Balochistan and taking advantage of Northern Alliance Government in Afghanistan and using its tentacles at Kabul, Jalalabad, Khost, Kandahar and Spin Boldak, the tribals in Waziristan and Balochistan are continuously being kept activated for fomenting trouble - while Taliban and Al-Qaeda are getting the blame and Pakistan gets the rap for “not doing enough” by US and “FRIENDLY” Afghan authorities.
After the Indian consulate in Karachi was wound up. RAW started maintaining contacts in their sources/links in Pakistan through their consulates at Zahidan and Dubai. Most of the staff at Indian Consulate in Zahidan is from intelligence/security organisations including RAW, Intelligence Bureau and Military Intelligence. The sizeable cover staff in their Embassy at Dubai under the pretence of tourist traffic. The set-ups are dedicated units mainly responsible for promoting ethnic unrest in Pakistan. They continue to provide financial and material support to various regionalist/sectarian parties in Sindh and Balochistan
UAE Angle:
UAE is being used as a launching pad for terrorist activities in Pakistan. Agents are getting hold of young, disgruntled elements and after carrying out their proper brainwashing, they are dispatched to Dubai. Indian Consulate in Dubai is issuing temporary passport to these activists for getting training/briefing. After completion of their formal training, they are launched into Pakistan to carry out their terrorist/sabotage activities.
To cripple the economy of Pakistan, RAW has taken it upon itself the responsibility of pumping fake currency into Pakistan through various illegal means. RAW and various Indian and Foreign Intelligence Agencies have also been patronizing various local dissident groups in Pakistan. As mentioned, the prominent ones are - Sindhi Desh Movement in Sindh, Saraiki Movement in Punjab and tribal Balochis in the name of Greater Balochistan.
To fan flames of Sindhi Desh Movement, subversive literature, published from Bombay and Jammu eg, Sindh Sujag, Sindh Rises; Sindh Parcham, Sangat and lot of other subversive material is being pumped into Sindh clandestinely. With regard to support for the Saraiki Movement, it is worth mentioning that we are morally and materially supporting the Saraiki Movement in southern Punjab. Regional Political Parties like Saraiki Suba Mahaz, Pakistan Saraiki Party and Saraiki Sahilya Sangam are being effectively sponsored. Their operators in southern Punjab are being supported by accepting Saraiki as the second state language in Indian-held Punjab. All India Radio/TV are regularly broadcasting various Saraiki programmes. Subversive literature in huge quantity is being published on the subject.
The success of RAW/MOSSAD/MOIS activities is reflected in the fact that a section of respected and influential intellectuals have started voicing for the cause of Punjab/Punjabis from the platform of World Punjabi Congress. This has effectively started the trend of widening the gulf of misunderstanding among various provinces of Pakistan.
RAW is also involved in sponsoring Balwaristan Movement. It is being organised under Abdul Hamid, self-styled chairman of his own faction of Balwaristan National Front (BNF) based in Delhi. The Front is working for the independence of Northern Areas. It has been inculcating into Pakistan and highly subversive material from abroad.
Conclusion
Pakistan has been effectively engaged in for a long hot summer as the summer offensive continues. Despite fencing the LoC with a highly sophisticated system of monitors and sensors, and reducing infiltration to 92%, India on the diplomatic front must continue to persist in blaming Pakistan for “cross-border terrorism” and “infiltrating militants” while it foments trouble deep inside Pakistani economic and military centers. It should be noted that the problems created by Pakistan in the state of Jammu and Kashmir tend to hurt Pakistan more on the economic, military and diplomatic front.
The key to lasting peace is not merely on the diplomatic approach but by making genuine efforts to encircle and balkanize the Pakistani economic and military establishment, thereby giving India the command and control of influencing Pakistani and as an extension Chinese foreign policy toward India
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anonymous,
what is the source of this article.
hi mavericks.
here is the source
http://www.indiandefenceforum.com/index.php?action=profile;u=732;sa=showPosts
1) The article may be fake but it gives a general idea as to what nations do while dealing with there enemies.
2)It also contradicts what you have been saying all along in your blogs i.e USA has put a diktat in place against we indians fomenting any trouble in pakistan.
3)form 2-> This is one of the reason why no one for that matter should put too much trust on one's "sources".BR and other places are heavily populated by posters who claim to have deep "sources" withing the govt(i am not pointing at you,but generally commenting).
another one from IDF..take a look at it.
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US says ready to sell advanced arms to India...
"It is our goal to help meet India's needs in the defence realm, and to provide important capabilities and technologies that India seeks. We are on a path to accomplish this..." George bush on his recent India Visit.
The game is rapidly changing. The lines are drawn - It's in black and white ...Pakistan is China's ally(Gen. Musharaf's visit to China co-inciding with Bush's visit to India) and India is the American ally. A new cold war has begun. The core of it all - the mid-east oil. The first battle ground is the subcontinent.
i. "A nuclear deal between Washington and Islamabad is not possible at this juncture as there were 'concerns' over Pakistan's proliferation record". US Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice.
ii. ...this is not a stage Pakistan is currently in. This is not the time for such an arrangement with Pakistan". On Pak-US Nuke deal.
iii. Musharaf's Live statement [2nd March '06] : "We have other options... namely China"
But this cold war is very different. Everyone wants to trade and engage one another. That is the way of keeping each other at bay. China will go to great lengths as Pakistan is now its energy and trade corridor ( Gwadar ). US will try to restrict this and may even incite India to war or create insurgency situations to disrupt the corridor. But the stakes are very high- with nuclear weapons on each side.
It is not just a question of supplying hi-tech arms to India. There are other factors, which worry china and pakistan.
To begin with, lets look the bigger picture. The Indian IT and BPO/ KPO sectors are integrating with American companies, many people both in India and the US, have started thinking on these lines for the American Military-Industrial Complex.
In some areas, India is increasingly merging all aspects of the military supply chain, which includes joint R&D, joint production, outsourcing from various subcontractors both in US and India, joint marketing, and joint induction in the respective military wings.
It is due to this that India has embarked on this process of enacting Intellectual Property Laws (IPR) and Procurement Guidelines, so that both the military-industrial complexes can work together. India want's to save on cost of R&D and production (many hi-tech Israeli defense manufacturing units migrating to India). Add to this the constantly increasing defence budgets, for the Americans there is market to be tapped here.
In fact India has started doing this with old business partners like Russia. Even as Jacques Chirac was in India, an agreement was signed to move more in the direction of joint production. India is after hi-tech, and is finding more and more partners for doing this - flirting with everybody, who have hi-tech.
Considering that US has been successful in stopping European hi-tech weapon sale to the Chinese, Chinese themselves are being hindered in aquiring hi-tech weaponry. With the departure of Gerhard Schröder and soon Jacques Chirac, it is going to be even more difficult for the Chinese to get the weapon embargo lifted.
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YOUR PROBLEM IS ACTUALLY THAT U ARE BASICALLY AN INDIAN ……AND IT IS IN UR NERVES TO SPEAK AGAINST PAKISTAN AND ITS UR HABBIT TO CHANGE THE GOOD THINGS OF PAKISTAN TO BAD ….YOU INDIANS ARE THE PERSONS WHO BELIEVE TO POINT OUT OTHER’S GOOD THINGS INSTEAD OF MAKING URSELF TOLERABLE FOR THE WORLD …..BUT U INDIANS ALWAYS FORGET ONE THING ..THAT IF YOU POINT OUT ONE FINGER ON PAKISTAN THEN FOUR FINGERS WILL POINT ON YOU AND WILL CRUELLY MASK OFF UR FACE TO REAL GRUBBY FACE .
Hi Anonymous,
Thank you for the source on the Indian Defence articles.
I will read them in detail and respond but generally we do not work with the Israelis. Information is occasionally shared with Israel when there is some relevance, but resources are not shared. These Hindu-Jew collaboration stories are usually the product of an overactive Pakistani imagination. Though it is also possible that some hyperimaginative Indian internet dweller has come up with this fantasy to appease the appetite for Indians on the net to see Pakistan get a beating. This reads like the scenarios thread on the disreputable forum.
Sources exist everywhere. Every journalist has them. You can think of the people who post on the internet as being journalists without editors.
So make what you will of it, but there is no operation underway within Indian intelligence services to undermine President Musharraf or his cooperation with the United States. There are Indian intelligence operations underway to identify and prosecute threats to India's security but we are *NOT* trying to pull Musharraf down.
We do not 100% believe everything that Gen. Musharraf says but we understand that it is in the nature of things that he deliberately lie to us. We accept this as the cost of doing business with him and given such a cost, we are chary of making big investments in him. ***BUT*** our lack of support for Musharraf should not be construed as a desire to bring him down. We know that Musharraf is an American toy and we don't want damage their toy.
There are a number of Jihadis in Pakistan who feel that if they provoke India hard enough, then possibly India will start something in Pakistan that causes a regime change. However presently GoI is not interested in pursuing anything of that nature. The emphasis is on peaceful national development and the old adage of letting Pakistan "stew in its own juices" is dominating GoI thinking.
You don't need any sources for this. The PM has publicly indicated that he has no interest in harebrained schemes to bring about a premature end to the Musharraf presidency. That my dear friend is the final word on the matter.
Hi Anonymous, *(who writes in all capital letters).
Yes I am an Indian. The name Maverick has been borrowed from the title assigned to the Special Group, the famed "22s". If you read the first post on this blog you will see that I have made this public.
I don't claim to speak for all Indians.
I am simply an Indian who is concerned about the way things are progressing in Pakistan.
Pakistani history has always stated that that the partition of 1947 was unsatisfactory, it left many issues unresolved, for example kashmir, or the status of Indian muslims.
As it turns out, I agree that Partition of 1947 was unsatisfactory but not because of Kashmir or Junagarh or Hyderabad, but because it created an atmosphere of hostility that often blinds us to the nature of common problems. This hostility is firmly entrenched in the Pakistani mind because of the failure of the governments of Pakistan to build a sense is national identity. Unfortunately in my lifetime I have seen this kind of hostility grow in India too. You must understand that most of the Indian army is now composed of veterans of Operation Rakshak, the security operation in Kashmir. These veterans have a very poor opinion of Pakistan. As these veterans rise through the ranks of the Indian Army, that sense of direct hostilty towards Pakistan in India will express itself more dramatically.
Take my comments on the public health system in Pakistan. There are problems like this in India but thanks to the efforts of our pharma companies, we are in a position to atleast keep large reserves of medicines to meet our contingencies and the Army is now incessantly drilled to operate in a Chem-Bio-Warfare environment. Even if someone doesn't drop a biological weapon on India, the army's skills can be used to deal with outbreaks of various kinds should the need arise. What capacity does Pakistan Army have in this regard?
What was the performance of the Pakistan Army in Kashmir earthquake of 2005? Did they do anything at all? or was all the work done by Lashkar-e-Taiba?
This is what I mean when I say that the Pakistan Army is only successfully turning Pakistan into a festering sore of a nation that will drag the world down with it.
hi maverick,
1)i do not know what to write now, that you have written so much.When it comes to "sources", there have incidents where contradictory versions of various incidents happening in pakistan have come to my knowledge.
2)Nevertheless can you post your comments in Indiandefenceforum.Instead of rebutting the article point by point here it is best that you post your views there.
3)It may also be that that article was written by someone to discredit india(M.K.narayana in his comments on the latest blasts at assam has pointed a finger at a foregin power)
4)Is is possible to remove the posting of that article?Looks as if it will create more trouble.My intention was to bring to your notice that article. I think the best that should have done by me was to email it rather having it post in blogs.
anonymous,
don't worry about it.
thank you for bringing it to my attention.
in the future email might be a better option if you are unsure of the suitability.
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