Sunday, November 25, 2007

The Declining Power of the US NRI

As the dollar falls, the fortunes of people that remit to India in dollars will fall with it.

I am not saying India will not want dollars, but that the buying power of the dollar *IN* India will decline and with it, the influence weilded by those who deal solely in the dollar will fall.

For NRIs in the Gulf (or elsewhere) this is simply a question of changing currencies. You earn in Dinars or Dirhams, convert to Euros before you move the money back to India. Also worst case scenario, you can simply buy gold in the souks and take it home.

But for US based NRIs things are not going to be so simple - they simply do not have this flexibility. Their businesses earn money directly in dollars. They cannot demand payment in Euros.

Many US based NRIs have been at the centre of the global technology revolution, however only a small fraction of these people returned to India and shared their technological gains with India directly. Most were content to earn in dollars and periodically wire some money home to India. This inflow of capital allowed India to pretend that in someway the intellectual property deficit created by the outflow of trained labour to US industries, was being redressed.

Now that pretence will have to end.

The US NRI will have to bring his or her skills back home if they are to remain relevant from an Indian point of view.

Many US based NRIs will find this transition very difficult. Most have acclimated to their adopted homeland and will find returning to the motherland almost impossible. The few brave ones that leave after having stayed in the US for long will find that their ideas of India are outdated.

Among those that I pity the most are the American "SuperHindus". Their ideas of "Hinduism" revolve around notions of using religion to "bind" a community together against an external cultural influence. Such ideas are a byproduct of cultural friction between Indian immigrants and local populations in the US. These have no relevance in India. Like the "SuperSikhs", (the main supporters of Khalistan) before them, the "SuperHindu" will find the India of their fantasies simply does not exist. It is unclear to me how they will make such a transition.

20 Comments:

At 9:45 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Maverick,

Congratulations on taking the bull by the horn, erm, waving the red flag before the bull,erm, LOL!!.

Either way, you are going to have a stampede of superheated "superhindus" on your hands. I am surprised that there has been no comment so far on this supercharged write-up.

On a serious note, the Gulf NRIs have most of their currencies pegged directly to the dollar so their buying power in Indian rupees is reduced proportionate to the USD. Only Kuwait among the Gulf countries has its Dinar pegged to a basket, with the dollar I believe still having a 55%-70% weighting. The exact number is kept secret by the Kuwaiti Central Bank.

ldev

 
At 10:56 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Let us list some of the NRI's who made a difference (good or bad is beside the point) WITHOUT phoren money
Mahatma Gandhi, Savarkar, Subhas Bose, Aurobindo, Dadabhai Naoroji, Ambedkar, Tagore, The entire Nehru Khaandaan - (Motilal,Jawahar,Indira,Rajeev, Sanjay), Jinnah, BC Pal, SP Mookerjee, Manmohan Singh, Arun Shourie etc etc. I hope you get the point.
Yes I agree that a lot of them are British and European NRI's, since the British and Europeans were at the top of the game for several centuries.
For Amrican NRIs, Mukesh/Anil Ambani (Dhirubhai was an Arab NRI), Chidambaram etc. I would not even try to go anywhere near the list of Indian Nobel Prize winners.
All of these people made an impact (good or bad) without pumping in money from outside.
Would'nt Savarkar, Gandhi, Aurobindo etc. be considered "superhindus" of those days?

 
At 8:25 AM, Blogger maverick said...

Hi LDev,

I have read reports of Indian expats in the Gulf asking to be paid in something that doesn't fluctuate with the dollar. I assume this will be the Euro.

I am not writing this to enter into a debate with the "SuperHindu" types, I know their point of view and I do not dispute its validity in the US.

I merely point out its invalidity in India.

Anonymous,

Gandhi etc... do not qualify as NRIs. The term NRI refers to those Indians who live and work outside the country.

Also I am not saying that Indians living in the US will not make contributions to India. The Indian Diaspora has always made contributions to India.

I am *only* saying that Indians in the US will no longer be able to use the dollar to make a difference in India, they will have to make contributions in kind - contributions with their skills.

For most US NRIs this is a big shift.

>> Would'nt Savarkar, Gandhi, Aurobindo etc. be considered "superhindus" of those days?

No.. not per the definition of the term "SuperHindu".

At the end of the day, Savarkar, Golwalkar etc... they were Indians living in India who came up with an idea that had a specific context - a place in time and space - where the idea had meaning.

The American "SuperHindus" have borrowed their concept and attempted to apply it in the US. However ideologically this is a one way street. What the American "SuperHindus" use in the US today, is not useful in India today.

The political consolidation of "Hindu" identity in India only had relevance at one instant in time, when Jinnah's "Direct Action" program encouraged criminals to commit the genocide of Hindus. It was here that the adherents of Savarkar and Golwalkar found some utility and helped prevent this genocide from progressing.

Beyond that - the threat posed by the program to the fabric of India was largely repaired by promoting tolerance and religious harmony - not by making counter-threats or violent repraisals.

Today, despite all the bomb blasts and terrorism, religious violence levels in India are a small fraction of what they were in the partition era. Polarisation in most parts of India is very limited and viability of the democratic systems attests to such facts.

Yes places like Kashmir, Hyderabad, Gujurat have their problems, but by and large things are pleasant - and a state of aman prevails.

By contrast the SuperHindu lives in perpetual friction with his/her surroundings with the US. The cultural burden of living in an alien land weighs heavily on their shoulders. An extended aggressive assertion of identity makes sense there.

 
At 8:27 AM, Blogger maverick said...

Ldev,

A phrase that friend of mine invented over lunch describes the attitude of the "SuperHindu" succinctly...

per my friend... the "SuperHindus" present themselves as being "Hinduer than thou" when talking to their native Indian brothers.

They combine the uniquely dislikable qualities of excessive religious zeal with a disdain for all things in the motherland. They act like "Hindu"-sounding foreigners who think India is a dirty place unworthy of living in and that only they are more "Hindu" than their Indian brothers.

 
At 4:54 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Maverick,

>>per my friend... the "SuperHindus" present themselves as being "Hinduer than thou" when talking to their native Indian brothers.

They combine the uniquely dislikable qualities of excessive religious zeal with a disdain for all things in the motherland. They act like "Hindu"-sounding foreigners who think India is a dirty place unworthy of living in and that only they are more "Hindu" than their Indian >>brothers.

Is this superhindu phenomenon unique to the US based NRI? If you say that in the US the average hindu NRI is living in cultural/racial friction with society at large and hence his/her superhindu characteristics come to the fore as a sort of defensive mechanism, then what about other emigrants from India who have endured far greater turmoil in their lives and yet do not appear to have metamorphosed into superhindus?

I can think of Indian emigrants to the Carribean, Fiji and South Africa. They endured far greater hardships in the form of discrimination, cultural taboos and simply inequitable economic opportunities. Heck, the ones to the Carribean were packed off as indentured labor. I have come into contact with many of them. And yet they appear to be perfectly normal people who carry their hinduness with them inwardly, inspite of all the historical hardship they have endured. Quite unlike the recent US NRIs who have actually had a pampered existence but who appear to have a chip on their shoulders and hence aggressively flaunt their superhindu status anywhere and everywhere they come into contact with other Indians?

What gives here I wonder? Is it that they are just spoilt?

On the issue of Gulf based NRIs demanding payment in Euros or other currencies, I really dont blame them. Even the locals are complaining. My old friend, a small time sheikh is heavily grumbling as to how many barrels of oil are now needed to pay for the latest S class Mercedes, notwithstanding the price of oil in dollars because the S class pricing is Euro based. Other than the US market, the Euro luxury car makers are increasing prices to reflect their true costs. Hence the grumbling from the sheikh.

The other impact in the Gulf is inflation. Because the currencies are pegged directly to the dollar (effectively the dollar by another name), the price of everything imported, which is just about everything from a non dollar country is increasing exponentially. Food is subsidized in the Gulf. Historically, inflation was contained below 5%, in fact in the 2%-3% range. But now it is running rampant, with inflation in the UAE and Qatar not into double digits. And that does not include housing costs which are increasing at 20% plus per annum.

ldev

 
At 8:04 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

maverick boss,

you have opened a can of worms ... let's leave SuperHindus aside ... the real problem is that there is no clear definition of the "idea of India" ... what is your take? ... why is ONE India a *fundamental* idea as opposed to 50 little Indias? ... why should the state impose its will in a violent manner in states like J&K, Nagaland and Mizoram? ... hopefully your answer has no basis in "hindu rashtra" ... let's have it ...

for the fun of it, I will argue as a Mizo and how the "dreaded wais" have controlled my destiny and freedom beyond reason ... cheers,

Alok_N

 
At 8:17 PM, Anonymous kg said...

Hi folks:

>> The dollar

Are things stuffed in the Anglo/US sphere or what?

Met a bunch of surprisingly nice Euros, (French and Germans) a couple of days back - they couldn't stop sniggering at the US' financial woes.

Couldn't quite get why they think they're so immune - but they seem remarkably confident that they can escape what's about to happen in the US.

Said the Brits got what was coming to them - seemed to enjoy that no end. Less gloating on the US' travails, but far more contemptuous.

Funny the attitude that comes out when folks get a large number of saki pegs into them.

All of them agreed with the senior women there who said "why should we care - you Asians will have to pay for it anyway". The Euros seemed to find that statement terribly amusing.

Seeing how things were going, I brought up the bit about the stability of the American nomenclatura. Didn't get much of a response there.

Lots of babble about the US meritocracy failing etc. Then this one guy - (German or Austrian, dunno, did go on a bit about the marvels of Vienna) - says:

"If Arnie can't become President, why shouldn't he declare California an independent country". Everyone just gapes at him. He gets kinda defensive and goes on about the Latin demographics and ends with something along the lines of:

"Well look at Slovenia - they were smart enough not to pay for the "stupid serbs". If the US economy goes,why shouldn't California or Texas be independent countries? Why couldn't it happen in 20 or 30 years"?

Staggered me, with that. Sounded so totally of the planet - but stuff like that always does the first time you hear something so strange, doesn't it?

Course, this was just a lot of babble lubricated by alcohol that always happens after meetings like this - still . . .

 
At 9:42 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

maverick,

i would like to know your views on the authors of Voice of India publications such as ram swarup, sitaram goel, koenraad elst etc etc.. would you call them superhindus? or their books unworthy of perusal?

thanks

 
At 10:21 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Malaysian Superhindus
Malaysia crushes Indian rally - Biggest protest in a decade against government discrimination exposes deep racial divisions

Protest in Malaysia

The Anglo Saxon world consists not just of Britain and America, but it also includes Canada and Australia - both of which have very strong currencies. The American NRIs have to just jump over the border and become Canadian NRI's.

One of the things I will say about the Anglo Saxon Children countries (ASC) is that America is fundamentally different from Canada and Australia. Canada and Australia considered the Queen Mother as a Holy Cow and refused to criticize or go against. The Americans did not care. I do not know all the reasons for this but one of the things claimed is that they have "rebellion bred in their genes". If this is true it might make them "offensive" to traditionalist people.

The French have a 20% Muslim population which is completely unassimilated and regularly riots. Several hundred cars burnt every night is normal. When it crosses a thousand cars every night it shows up in newspapers. The French are letting their emotions cloud their judgment as usual. I do not know about Germans so I will not comment on that.

 
At 6:25 AM, Blogger maverick said...

Hi ldev,

I think the "SuperHindu" is unique to the US because in American culture, aggressively asserting your ethnic identity is an acceptable form of self-expression.

In other countries where Hindus have faced far greater oppression and friction, such assertiveness would be counter productive.

Alok,

I don't think there is a single "idea of India". India is whatever the billion or so Indians want it to be. I don't think that anyone can impose their notion of what India is on 1 billion people.

People often talk about what they want India to be... I don't want it to be anything - to me it is what it is.

This utter surrender before the reality of India's diversity is all I have to offer in such discussions.

Some people find diversity disturbing. The Americans in particular have historically demonstrated enormous problems with diversity. This has manifested in the manner in which a number of narratives (native american, women, black, gay-lesbian) have been suppressed in favour of the "immigrants" tale.

For a european social reject to believe that such a childish suppression of narratives will succeed in producing a controlled national psycholgical environment is one thing... but for a product of India's advanced civilization to buy into such garbage.... well that is just asking too much.

 
At 6:27 AM, Blogger maverick said...

kg,

Schumer and company who rejected DPW's investments in ports because they had ties to terrorists are now welcoming Dubai's "investment" into Citigroup.

The wonders never cease.

I am waiting for bad news about Goldman Sachs.

 
At 6:34 AM, Blogger maverick said...

Hi Anonymous,

My use of the word "SuperHindus" is limited to people outside India who use an aggressive assertion of "Hindu" identity as a way to cope with cultural friction.

I think that definition is quite clear cut.

The term "SuperHindu" does not apply to someone who lives inside India and projects an overt "Hindu" identity. It does not apply to someone an Indian living inside India who prosletyses "Hindu" ideas for social, political or economic reasons.

Anonymous,

Malaysians of Indian descent do not qualify for the "SuperHindu" label as they are merely malays protesting against discrimination.

Malaysians Hindus do not talk down to their brothers and sisters in India. They never imply that India's faith is lacking because the Republic of India does not overtly subscribe to Malay engineered versions of "Hindu" ideas.

Malay Hindus do not think that Indian should do everything that Malaysia does.

This sets the Malaysian Hindus apart from their US counterparts.

 
At 6:43 AM, Blogger maverick said...

Once again - to be explicitly clear.

The term "SuperHindus" applies only to those people who use "Hindu" identity abroad to protect themselves from unwanted cultural influences and *THEN* use their "status" to prosletyse to
Indians in India about "Hinduism".

"SuperHindus" think that India should be more like whichever land they live in. And when India doesn't conform to their idea of what it should be, "SuperHindus" behave no differently than impertinent foreigners of a bygone age did in India.

It is important to convey to the "SuperHindus" that their interation with Indian on issues of religion is largely a one-way-street. It is also important that "SuperHindus" in particular realise that the "Hindu" faith as practiced by them is at variance with what is done in India and just as the rituals etc.. had to be modified to suit their local foreign environment, the ideas and concepts of that "SuperHindus" shoot back at their fellow Indians have to be considerably modified before they find any application in India.

To date, "SuperHindus" have relied on the dollar to give them a sense of superiority over their poor Indian co-religionists. This sense of superiority cannot hold in an environment where the dollar is dying.

 
At 1:44 PM, Blogger maverick said...

Hi ldev,

I missed the part of other Indians in the US who do not morph into "SuperHindus".

I think there is a simple explanation for that part - not all Indians are alike and not all Indians react to cultural pressures in the same way.

The "SuperHindu" and the "Coconut" represent two extreme reactions that Indians present to assimilation pressures in the US.
Most US NRIs fall in the middle of such extremes and submit to varying degrees of westernization.

Having lived outside India for a considerable period of time myself, I find that I have drifted quite some distance away from the ritualistic hinduism that is practicised by a part of my family. I am not against that kind of behaviour, I am just not interested in the pseudo-vedic stuff. This contrasts with my own relatives, some of who travel the world doing missionary work for the VHP and some of whom who actually perform religious rites for others.

I don't fit coconut description either, I still think of myself as an Indian. I can't imagine a world where India or Indians with all their idosyncracies do not exist.

I think with the passing of the years, I find I am now more and more like my late maternal grandmother who never set foot outside India. My late maternal grandmother was an oddity in her time, she was a feminist, at time when most women lived in the shadows of their husbands, she had a masters degree, held a permanent government job, and lived the greater portion of her life as the widowed single mother of three daughters!

Tragically I was outside the country when she passed away, but I was not surprised when I learnt that she had specifically requested that no religious rites be performed at her funeral and that her body was consigned to flames with little more than a sombre salute.

 
At 9:47 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I don't fit coconut description either, I still think of myself as an Indian. I can't imagine a world where India or Indians with all their idosyncracies do not exist.

I think you are a coconut through and through, and it shows up in almost all your posts. You want your nationalism but on your terms. How others define their nationalism and view it, offends you and causes you to come up with such terms as "superhindus". The biggest superhindus are in India, people like Modi or Togadia etc. But you cant criticize them since its more politically correct for you to pick up on the nasty NRIs who dont do what the Govt of India wants of them. Besides they are American, and we know by now, through your blog, how America keeps you awake at night.
So yes, you are a coconut through and through- you just dont realise it. You want to be a "modern Indian" who is more liberal and more nationalist than others but above such things such as religion. This elitist contempt of religion is in fact, the hallmark of a cocunut. The funniest thing is that coconuts never realise that they are coconuts. Like the drunk who keeps insisting that he is not drunk. Maverick, get used to the idea of a Hindu revival, its there, and it wont go away. But what worries you the most is that the well educated, well heeled types who should have been coconuts as you are, are not, they are concsiously seeking out their heritage and defending it. This sort of movement is bound to intensify, and with the $ at 40 to a Rs, they still pack more punch than an ordinary guy if they put their mind to it. Its a fact of life, grow used to it. As an Indian Hindu (unlike you)- I fully support the NRI Super Hindus. They care for their culture and will strive to protect it, as they have grown up without the dhimmitude and brown outside white inside syndrome you so characteristically display.

So get used to the hindus standing up for their rights, again and again, whether it be in Malaysia or the US or India. You can turn your nose up at them, think they are below you, but frankly, they have a far deeper tie to their culture and nation than you ever will.

 
At 9:09 AM, Blogger maverick said...

Dear Anonymous,

No - Modi is not a "SuperHindu". Modi is quite simply - Modi - no other word describes him. I have nothing to say that is critical of him, he is the elected representative of the people of Gujurat and I respect that. He has done far more than I could aspire for. If I was in Gujurat, I would have voted for him based on his stellar economic performance there.

I must say I find the ease with which NRIs distance themselves from Modiji a little amusing. I guess it has to do with all the negative publicity that surrounds Modi in the US.

When the nature of Togadia's passport is resolved to my satisfaction, I will be able tell you whether he is a "SuperHindu" or not. My concerns about him were triggered when he dared to oppose PM Vajpayee. Tragically for the like of Mr. Togadia, I am not one who forgets when such transgressions.

I am an Indian, my patriotism and my nationalism are uniquely mine. I have resisted other peoples' attempts to define both. I am simply too old and too jaded to buy into this "Hindu Revival" that is fashionable lately. Like I said earlier, I have seen all this before, it has no impact on me.

"SuperHindus" are no different from Coconuts. They both love to hate India and get their jollies by finding faults with India and Indians.

I think India is perfect the way it is.

I am not apologetic about my version of "Hinduism" or "Nationalism" or "culture" and nor am I going to set that aside because someone says so.

Everyone universally accepts coconuts as a complete regret to humanity, but now the time has come to recognise the "SuperHindus" as no different.

The entertainment will come when the BJP tells the "SuperHindus" to shut up because at 40 Rs to the dollar, that is simply too little money.

Bhai mere, to get an opening bid on a Lok Sabha seat nomination, it takes about Rs 3 Cr after that another Rs 10 Cr goes into electioneering. At 40 to the dollar you have already lost about 20% of the value from last year. Inflation is such a bitch isn't it.

 
At 10:01 AM, Blogger maverick said...

Hi Anonymous,

I see no reason why Indians should not take money from NRIs. A lot of those NRIs got to where they are because their brothers and sisters in India starved so that they could buy a ticket to go abroad. This is simply paying back an implicit loan. An NRI who shies away from sending money to India is like a son or daughter who abandons a parent in their old age.

I have never objected to Indian Muslims asking for money from people in the Middle East. I know they go there from time to time and make up some sob story about being poor muslims in a Hindu country and then get some rich Middle Eastern NRI to give them money out of sympathy.

I have been the staunchest supporter of such scams. I go as far as to say that the world's muslims do not do enough for their Indian coreligionists.

I do not see why Indian Hindus should pull similar such scams on their NRI counterparts esp. since the "SuperHindus" are particularly likely to buy into this. I am not about to apply a different standard to Hindus and Muslims.

I am merely telling the NRIs that the *dollar* does not go as far as it used to.

For the "SuperHindus", it means that if they cannot pay in something besides dollars, they should realise that they are not as far above their poor Indian brothers as they used to be.

I have had the sheer entertainment of watching the SuperHindus of America tell me how they saved India from economic collapse due to US sanctions in 1999 by remitting money home in dollars. Now I am telling them the dollar is falling and the security of the investments they have in India cannot be guarenteed by a weakening currency like this.

For other Indians this is simply an economic matter of changing currencies, but US based SuperHindus have it really hard - this is both an economic concern and a crisis of faith.

The "SuperHindus" of America need to become conscious of the fact that they do not have the monetary strenght to support the kind of arrogance they have displayed before their fellow Indians in the last decade.

 
At 1:02 PM, Blogger maverick said...

Hi Anonymous,

The previous post should read,

"I do not see why Indian Hindus should not pull similar such scams on their NRI counterparts esp. since the "SuperHindus" are particularly likely to buy into this. I am not about to apply a different standard to Hindus and Muslims. "

 
At 10:32 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

>>No - Modi is not a "SuperHindu". Modi is quite simply - Modi - no other word describes him. I have nothing to say that is critical of him, he is the elected representative of the people of Gujurat and I respect that. He has done far more than I could aspire for. If I was in Gujurat, I would have voted for him based on his stellar economic performance there.

who are you to tell me who Modi is or Modi isnt? Did you ever vote for him? I as a Hindu regard him as a "SuperHindu" without the derogtation you have attached. I will vote for him because he is not afraid about his religious identity, is an excellent administrator and defender of the Hindu faith against Islamic and Christian fundamentalists. Get used to it.
Dont talk for me, an Indian, and call NRIs names, especially when I agree with them.

I have never objected to Indian Muslims asking for money from people in the Middle East. I know they go there from time to time and make up some sob story about being poor muslims in a Hindu country and then get some rich Middle Eastern NRI to give them money out of sympathy.

Yes you havent, which is what makes you a coconut. You have no problems with Muslims spitting in the plate that they eat from. But if a Hindu expresses his disgust at their behaviour, you will call him names. Centuries of brainwashing and then the attitude of silver spoon in the mouth, and we have you, the Indian "secularist" who gives a load of faeces on what the term was meant for making it what i has become.

I have been the staunchest supporter of such scams. I go as far as to say that the world's muslims do not do enough for their Indian coreligionists.

I do not see why Indian Hindus should pull similar such scams on their NRI counterparts esp. since the "SuperHindus" are particularly likely to buy into this. I am not about to apply a different standard to Hindus and Muslims.


You are already applying a different standard being a coconut. Just like we have come to expect, the likes of you dont know the truth in India today even if kicks you in the face. Muslims appeal to Muslims abroad to support Islam and win their support. Now Hindus have learnt the same and are finally playing the game. And if luck holds, we will win our country back from both Muslim fanatics and the likes of you who pretend to be our fellow citizens but support any Muslim fanaticism because it is PC and the 'right thing to do'. No, we will take the support of the Hindu community, in India, in the world to fight our fight for our religion and our people. Sit and cry about it, but you are not us, you dont have the right to call these people Super Hindus pretending that they are duping us or that we are duping them. They are helping us because they feel for their faith and people and we take their help because we need it and because they are our people.


When the nature of Togadia's passport is resolved to my satisfaction, I will be able tell you whether he is a "SuperHindu" or not. My concerns about him were triggered when he dared to oppose PM Vajpayee. Tragically for the like of Mr. Togadia, I am not one who forgets when such transgressions.

If Vajpayee fucks up then Togadia has a right to call him to his senses. Togadia doesnt care a damn for coconuts, nor does Vajpayee. Vajpayee knows at the end of the day, Togadia and he share the same goal of reviving and protecting the Hindu faith.

I am an Indian, my patriotism and my nationalism are uniquely mine. I have resisted other peoples' attempts to define both.

No you are a hypocrite. You are attempting to define other peoples nationalism for them by using tags like Super Hindus, DCH, and all sorts of labels. At the end of the day, you are another tinpot dictator, exiled to your corner of Hyde park, your piece of the internet who seeks relevance by calling those who challenge his viewpoint names. You are the epitome of what has caused a Hindu backlash. A muslim terrorist and who fights in the name of his religion, you will excuse him as misguided, as trying to dupe some NRM of his money. When NRIs and Indian Hindus coalesce together to fight for their rights and their beliefs politically, you seek to divide them and use all the tactics of sophistry against them from denying their purpose, divide and rule (Togadia vs Vajpayee), and labelling the NRHs as Super Hindus and that we Hindus are exploiting them for their money. The British ran India with people like you, who would constantly serve their master and run down their own people because they thought they were better than their own people. That is you.


I am simply too old and too jaded to buy into this "Hindu Revival" that is fashionable lately.

Not lately It has been going on ever since the Ram mandir agitation and it will pick up stream and it has. Twenty years before, no Hindu would have voted for a Modi, now he is a badge of pride Twenty years ago, there was no BJP. We will fight for our country and our rights and an equal space under the Sun. Try to spin it any way you want but we dont give a shit

Like I said earlier, I have seen all this before, it has no impact on me.

Coconuts have a way of swaying with the wind on the tree and then have a thick shell on the drop


"SuperHindus" are no different from Coconuts. They both love to hate India and get their jollies by finding faults with India and Indians.

They are no different from you? You are them?
Sorry NRI hindus dont love to hate India, they love to hate what the Govt of India has done to their religion and their people. But they are more Indian than you will ever be. It is not even Govts fault after all what is the Govt but the figurehead of the political dispensation running the show, and the CONGREss ansd communists did their best to divide and rule. NRI Hindus culture, their faith, is intrinsically tied to India in a way you will never grasp. They will do what they must to change things and Indians like me will take their help because we need it to change a "secular state" which is neither secular nor fair

I think India is perfect the way it is.

Of course it is, to a coconut who doesnt identify with his religion and looks down upon it it is perfect All your posts are about culture, this and that, but you are scared and too apologetic and even dismissive to admit that the Hindu has a right to his faith and it is everything for him, niot just culture or primitive Goddess worship or whatver bull you read in some Goras book

I am not apologetic about my version of "Hinduism" or "Nationalism" or "culture" and nor am I going to set that aside because someone says so.

Yes you are. You dislike the Hindus who are more assertive than you are. They discomfit you because they challenge every conception that you think a Hindu should be, because in YOUR ARROGANCE, you have never even granted the thot that they might actually be correct. You choose to define what their religion is, what and how they should be. If they cross YOUR ASSIGNED BARRIERS you use names and curses. You are so pathetic and woebegone that you even come up with a name like Super Hindus. Like I said, India has always had scum, but you of course are the elite, those who curse your fellow citizens of a particular faith and with religious labels attached to their religion because you dont like them. We dont care. You be A COCONUT, we will be Hindus. You can call yourself a Hindu if you want, unlike Muslims and Christians, we dont persecute atheists and those who seek some semblance of commonality with our culture. Call us all the names you want.

Everyone universally accepts coconuts as a complete regret to humanity, but now the time has come to recognise the "SuperHindus" as no different.

Hindus are no regret to humanity, they respect and rfight to prserve their culture despite having gown far away. Bt cocnuts like you are a regret to humanity, you prevent debate and then call your fellow citizens name. But you have never used the term Super Muslim or Super Christian. People like you cannot, dumping on your own culture and religion is ok for you, but others- they are sacred.
Each time someone like you comes up, that is 10 votes for BJP and us, because your actions are so repulsive that even the msot die hard pseudo secular comes to know the coconut hypocrisy


The entertainment will come when the BJP tells the "SuperHindus" to shut up because at 40 Rs to the dollar, that is simply too little money.

The BJP is telling the NRI hindus to step forward and help them and the NRI Hindus have done so. And they will because unlike you they are still Indian. You on the other hand were UK, US but just happened to be born in India. We Indians do what we must and we will work with our diaspora to achieve it.

Bhai mere, to get an opening bid on a Lok Sabha seat nomination, it takes about Rs 3 Cr after that another Rs 10 Cr goes into electioneering. At 40 to the dollar you have already lost about 20% of the value from last year. Inflation is such a bitch isn't

Which makes what the NRIs are doing 10 times more valuable. Despite inflation or whatever they are helping us Hindus in India. Unlike you, but then you are a lost cause anyways, you will bootlick to whichever dispensation is in power.

 
At 10:37 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I have had the sheer entertainment of watching the SuperHindus of America tell me how they saved India from economic collapse due to US sanctions in 1999 by remitting money home in dollars. Now I am telling them the dollar is falling and the security of the investments they have in India cannot be guarenteed by a weakening currency like this.

For other Indians this is simply an economic matter of changing currencies, but US based SuperHindus have it really hard - this is both an economic concern and a crisis of faith.

The "SuperHindus" of America need to become conscious of the fact that they do not have the monetary strenght to support the kind of arrogance they have displayed before their fellow Indians in the last decade.


Note how a coconut operates. Above is how a small segment of Indians behave, any diaspora will have them. But he doesnt call them SuperINdians. He calls them Super Hindus- first tieing them to Hinduism and then implying that NRI Hindus are like this.

Same way these coconuts ran India on a socialist economic model and then called it the Hindu rate of Growth.

As a practising Indian Hindu, I can just point out my disgust at these tactics. Dont speak for me and try to divide and rule NRIs and Indians.

You are a coconut Maverick, through and through. In fact, do us a favour and dont associate with us dirty Hindus of India as well, just be a Super Secular anywhere in the world.

 

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